Olaf Brzeski interviewed by Agnieszka Kurgan,
curator of SiC Gallery - BWA Wroclaw.
Villains – the extensively awaited swap of roles. What does the swapping depend on and what is its motoric power?
There appears a total replacement of the clique in charge on this of not-so-huge-size planet. Before we realize the irreversibility of our situation, the great head will manage to fall into an ill comatose dream and the majority of life evidence will die out. Afterwards, in May, tiny grave diggers will be attracted by what remains of us. Certainly, this is a surrealistic illusion. As if you were supporting a team, apparently weaker, who had been devastated by its opponent for a long time now. And when they finally score a point, you can hear the spectators sighing with a visible relief: “At last!”. This is the basis for the subtitle: “the extensively awaited swap of roles”. Extensively awaited by those who are bored with the predictability of each match scenario.
The Trophies are brought to life creating completely different images. Why are they deprived of their usual animal features?
They seem not to be the victims any more, but down with some kind of civilisation disease, or as we like to call it, they are simply down with evolution. The inevitable effect of assimilation: nature versus civilisation with nature taking after the latter one. The beastliness remains in its basic form – the instinct.
Are the villains created by means of black material because you’d like to suggest that the reality you’ve brought to existence is dark and evil?
The Reality is dark and evil, even without my help – Manichaean way. A villain, a bad guy, is a body containing a black film, drama or literary character. This kind of part, role in Reality is played by a person struggling to abuse it in any possible way. We are equal with animals as far as the amount of bestial features inscribed in us and the humanity ttributed to them. If it comes to the material used, it is always specific to a particular sculpture and its mission.
What is the project’s genesis and where does the interest in hunting come from?
Philip K. Dick, before he started writing his next novel, stated himself a question: “What if...?”. It is a will to see what would happen if..., a freedom of forming parallel realities without keeping strictly to their probability. In this particular story a modern hunter and his room full of trophies is a summary of typical for humans need of possessing and being in charge. For a moment I offer the victims an opportunity to walk in hunter’s shoes. I offer myself a chance to create sculptures, which as I feel it, are given a new individual form. Only thanks to a context built on a newly born illusion.
Have you ever thought, what would it be like to wake up in a situation you’ve sentenced your hunter to?
Perhaps we will, one day, wake up. This is a good question which at the same time places the story in a dream, and I suppose it gives the best context for the reality I formed. I consider nature no better ruler. It is as effectively destructive as a human being. Certainly, there is the sense of balance applied. Nevertheless, from my point of view, nature’s cruelty is often aimless and unclear. And even though the jungle law is clear and prior also for people, I cannot forgive ‘the sins’ taking place in nature. I cannot simply name them: “a circle of life”, “keeping harmony” or “laws of nature”.
Sculptures as well as individual elements of the installation are ambiguous and each person can find something completely different. It happens in the case of the rifle or wrecks of hunter’s old furniture. Is it done on purpose? Did you want to make it easier for the observer to interpret what they see? Do you drag the viewer into a specific game of yours?
I wanted the exhibition to carry a feeling of anxiety raised upon the pulsating existence of various meanings at the same time. Putting the observer in a position when they find it impossible to determine where to direct their emotions. Sculptures’ form is clearly established, unchangeable, but can be read in extreme contexts. When the furniture disintegrate and go rotten, its construction falls down, gaining shapes of dead animals’ corps, abandoned a long time ago in forgotten corners of the hunter’s house. The pieces reminding the corpses are in fact well-skeletonized old armchairs and a sofa. In the end they represent both. The same thing happens with the rest of the sculptures, the ceramic ones. There are different levels you can use to read the interpretation. They are somehow grotesque, as if they come from a children’s cartoon. Thus they are deprived of being taken seriously.
They also show elements of a machine, remind spare parts, something technical. Some have more, some less – it depends on the ransformation phase. What is most important, all of them posses the animal feature. They still remain representatives of their species. It doesn’t matter we see something like pieces of an old ship or a damaged anvil. The rifle, for example, is at the same time a gun and a part of deer horns hanging on the wall. This makes the rifle also one of trophies. In this ambiguity, a variety of meanings, you can find some space for your own interpretation. For me there is only one true understanding, though. It helps me through my work with projects like this one – it helps me bring my work to the end.
Elements of civilisation, like the furniture, change their form into organic one, and animal trophies turn into a brutal machines. Do you think the evolution of civilisation aims at this direction?
I am not telling the future, predicting, warning or threatening. It’s not a science – fiction story. It is a kind of futuristic vision drawn by some sculptor, for whom the logical sequence does not exist, at least in this case. The greatest emphasis is put on a form and what can be evoked by the means of it. It is the form what shapes the image of reality. With my approach I can be credible only placed in a dream illusion. In fact, even the worst nightmares seem innocent compared to what we can come across in real life.
The interview was made in the occasion of exhibition Villains - the
extensively awaited swap of roles, SiC Gallery - BWA Wroclaw (PL)
www.bwa.wroc.pl



